Hi, everyone. This is Jim McCarty welcoming you to the L/L Research podcast, In the Now, Episode #41. L/L Research is a nonprofit organization dedicated to freely sharing spiritually oriented information and fostering community. Towards this end we have two websites: archive website, LLResearch.org and the community website, Bring4th.org.

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Again, I’m Jim McCarty and we are embarking on a new episode of L/L Research’s weekly podcast, In the Now. Is everybody here and ready to go?

I am both of those things.

And same here.

Ah, you guys are ambidextrous already. Our first question comes from Andrew via email who says that he’s curious about the octave. He writes:

“Since Ra spoke comparatively little about the octave, but there’s an interesting juxtaposition between question #78.10 and #78.15. In question 78.10, Ra seems to imply a progressive or progress of learning from octave to octave, saying, ‘Things known which were the harvest in the previous octave.’

Yet in question 78.15 Ra says, ‘Ways of the octave are without time, that is there are seven densities in each creation infinitely.’ So, with all this in mind, how can the infinite have things known from a previous octave, implying learning and progress, yet the ways of the octave be without time?“

And then he kind of adds another little end note.

“I suppose it comes down to this: How can the Infinite Creator have progress without a concept of time?”

So maybe we’ll just take it in those two parts of the question. Gary, what do you think about his first part?

My answer pretty much hinges on his note, “How can the Infinite Creator have progress without concept of time?” I worked on that.

All right.


Bring it on.

Yeah. If you guys, if you want to take a stab at the first part and then I can join when you tackle the second.

Mine kind of covers both grounds, too, so go for it.

So, this, like some of the questions that we are given about the Ra contact material, is way above my pay grade. As is often the case, I feel that I have very little to give initially. But then, as it happens, I started doing research and realized that maybe there is something that can be teased from the Ra material. And what I came up with was the concepts of sequence and time and how they are not necessarily one and the same. I am going to read some Ra quotes, from which I’ve removed some extraneous material.

In this quote from #28.6, Ra speaks to space/time (and, by implication, time/space) how they come into being out of timelessness. Don asked:

“When does individualization of the individualized portion of consciousness come into play?”

Ra answered:

“You remain carefully in the area of creation itself. In this process we must further confuse you by stating that the process by which Free Will acts upon potential intelligent infinity to become focused intelligent energy takes place without the space/time of which you are so aware, as it is your continuum experience.

The experience, or existence, of space/time comes into being after the individuation process of Logos, or Love, has been completed…“

As the physical universe has—now is my paraphrasing—begun to take shape, Ra goes onto say that in this process, the sun bodies have created “timeless chaos coalescing into what you call planets,” which Ra says spend a large amount of first density…

“…in a timeless state with the space/time realization being one of the learn/teachings of this density of beingness.

Thus, we have difficulty answering your question with regard to time and space and their relationship to the … original creation which is not a part of space/time as you understand it.“

So here, Ra is saying that time comes into being after the foundation, you might say, of the physical universe is formed. It is actually part of the lessons of first density to learn, manifest, recognize, become aware of space/time.

In #30.16, Ra talks again about space/time emerging out of timelessness.

“The spiritual density, or mass, of those more towards the center of your galaxy is known. However, this is due simply to the varying timelessness states during which the planetary spheres may coalesce, this process of space/time beginnings occurring earlier, shall we say, as you approach the center of the galactic spiral.”

Then in #40.1, Don is asking about one Logos ending its octave of experience as it moves through the black hole and emerges on the other side as another Logos that begins a new octave. Ra gives a comprehensive reply, which I’ll narrow down here to what’s pertinent:

“Thus the transition of the octave is a process which may be seen to enter into timelessness of unimaginable nature. To attempt to measure it by your time measures would be useless.

Therefore, the concept of moving through the black hole of the ultimate spiritual gravity well and coming immediately into the next octave misses the sub-concept, or corollary, of the portion of this process which is timeless.“

What my unenlightened mind makes of that is that there is a sequence, you might say, of evolution. That sequence creates time (and space) for a period in order to create an environment of growth and learning, but then it undoes or reabsorbs time, and the great sequence moves on. In a few different places in the Ra material Ra describes a “rhythm of reality” that involves outward and inward movement like a heartbeat, and operates in a cyclical fashion. To my mind, this speaks also of a sequence that does not depend upon time. And to save your time and ours, I’m going to nix reading those, but they are #27.6, #28.16 and #29.18.

Back to our host, Jim.

That was really good, Gary. In fact, it was even timeless.

I thought so, too. Thanks.

Austin, what have you to say about time and space and the octave?

Well, I think that was great as well. I think my answer takes a different approach. I think Gary’s was probably more on the nose of Andrew’s question on addressing the idea of how timelessness and progression can exist.

Before I start mine, I want to relate something to Gary’s. I remember Saphira Vox talking about cosmology. He’s a good friend who has done some research of the Ra material that we respect a lot. When he discusses the idea of Ra’s cosmology where there’s the first distortion, second distortion and all that, he talks about how these things are sequential, but not temporally sequential. Rather, they’re logically sequential. So, they aren’t necessarily sequential in the way that we would think about them happening in time, but there is some aspect of them where one is more primal and the second is, you know, secondary to that first one, without the idea of time. I think the term logically sequential rather than temporally sequential is a good term to use here because I think it touches on what Gary was talking about.

I think that this concept of being without time is something that is almost impossible to discuss from our perspective, especially since we’re veiled in a reality that severely limits our perception of time. We see it as moving in one direction—a very stuck and slow process. Even when we find a sort of timelessness within our meditation, we eventually come out of that state and consider the sequence of events that led to the ability to experience that timelessness. In talking about the octaves, we’re discussing this vast macrocosm. If we take the universe to be somewhat of a fractal in nature, we can maybe bring this perspective down to something closer to our own awareness to help us grasp this.

Andrew is talking about the progress from octave to octave, but I think that in other places in the material we can relate that and make it more relatable as progress from density to density because, after all, Ra does talk about everything existing in true simultaneity, whether it’s the octaves or the densities themselves. Before discussing the concept of progression from octave to octave, Ra already boggled my mind in a similar vein by discussing the nature of the higher self and how it is, in a sense, ourselves existing at a future point in time. Yet, from our third density point of view we have access to this higher self. Ra talks about this in #37.6:

“The higher self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving, as you measure time, in the stream of time.

This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank, or memory, of experienced thoughts and actions and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.

In this way you may see your self, your higher self or oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being. “

So, consider for a moment that the mid-seventh density gifts the higher self to the self and that this higher self is the same higher self that we call upon for guidance. We may call upon this higher self as we evolve through the densities, eventually arriving at seventh density. But that self that arrives at seventh density is the same self that has already gifted us the higher self that we call upon here in third density. Even now here in third density we can get a taste or an experience of this wacky timelessness that boggles our minds because we are existing simultaneously and can interact with a future aspect of ourselves. And yet, it’s clear that here in third density that we progress. We know that there are ways we can grow in order to progress through the densities and through future densities. We can all recall a point in our own journey where we’ve had a breakthrough and grew from our own catalyst. We see clearly the nature of progression from our perspective, despite the fact that we know, or at least we know from Ra, that we exist in true simultaneity or without time in a sense.

I think that this same idea can be applied to the octaves. It’s true that they might be without time, but there seems to be something significant about sequential building upon previous things that is necessary for the Creator to have an experience. This progression, which might be illusory much like our own experience of time, seems necessary to fulfill the Creator’s desire to know Itself. I also think it’s a good thing to note that Ra mentions in this very session that Andrew is referencing, Session 78, that they know very little about the previous octaves, or about octaves in general. They have called the octave a mystery which they do not plumb and they stress the importance of the beginning and ending of our beings as being in mystery.

So, I think that this very topic of the octaves is intentionally clad in mystery, even for Ra. Thus, our own thoughts can really only go so far in trying to wrap our minds around how this really works. And with that point, I’ll pass it back to Jim. What are your thoughts, Jim?

Good job. You guys really did a lot of good research there and came up with some very enlightening information. I think Ra is trying to make the point here that the octaves do have all seven densities, and apparently the octaves are infinite in number. They also said that the entities from the octave to come–this is the part that blew my mind—are the ones that, during a harvest, provide the emissions of light that determines the harvestability of each third density entity. So, these entities from the octave to come, which suggests that they haven’t existed yet, actually do exist and come here to help us. I think this gives us an idea how time is very flexible and fluid and maybe not exactly what we think it is.

Every density has a certain length of time, shall we say. The first density starts off in timelessness, which is a way to start boggling your mind right away. But then when the scroll of time unrolls, then the first density can be seen to be about two billion years long, which again, two billion years long as far as we’re concerned might as well be infinity. The second density is the longest density and lasts 4.6 billion years, which is another supposed time period that again is immense and unimaginable. Our third density lasts 75,000 years, which we can begin to imagine since we’ve got something to hold on to, you know, with only 75,000 years. Fourth density is 30 million years long, fifth density 50 million years long, and sixth density 75 million years long. So, each density has a time period to it in space/time.

However, we are apparently able to move around in space in space/time fairly easily. We can go from here to Chicago, and over to Los Angeles and back, and so forth, but we do it in sequence—in the past, the present, and the future. Yesterday we traveled so far, today we travel so far, and tomorrow same thing. But in time/space in any density, it seems like time is the quality that is flexible. In time/space, we can move about in time, but we’re relatively fixed in space—just as we are fixed in time in the third density in space/time . Got all that?


So, what we have in time/space for every density, including third, is what could be called an eternal now. There really isn’t the concept of time as we know it. There is the ability, however, to move about the universe in what Ra called ‘zero time’. To the entity who is totally balanced, the universe is open and free, and there is no bar against travel as Ra said. Ra also said something about our harvest regarding whether or not they were going to be able to continue their work to balance the distortions of the Law of One for which they felt responsible when they engaged with the Egyptians who distorted their message. They said that they are not a part of time, which makes them available at any of your times to continue this work. So, that’s kind of interesting. Any of our times? Our times are almost up, or are they?

So, I think that even though the concept of time as we think we know it, or hope to know it, exists through all the densities in the octave, there is this quality of timelessness that is also the basic quality or the more real reality, shall we say. I think that space/time nature of each density is for the purpose of learning lessons at a more rapid pace, of progressing, of doing things, getting out there and pretending that we’re not quite one with the Creator yet. So, what do we do to get to be one? And yet, in the time/space spirit world or however, you know, the immaterial world, the invisible world, which is a part of every density, we are more at one. There, we don’t have such a need to do things, to act, or to be seemingly separate from the Creator.

So, with that statement I will leave you alone. Any final questions or comments?

It was really fruitful listening to you muse about the nature and function of time and the notion of sequence. Just imagining existence outside of time is already impossible enough, but then imagining sequenced events moving from Event A to Event B to Event C and how the nature of cause and effect works without time is just…

Our minds are a product of space/time. They are hard-wired to think in those terms and see through those terms. I think you really have to get deep in a contemplative state that transcends ordinary mind to really consider this question, but it undoes my mind. And on the question of octaves and densities, there’s also a thought that I considered before. Ra uses the term ‘octave’ for the sub-densities of this density. They said the octave of third density once before, which makes you think that any grouping of seven with the eighth being the first of the new grouping might be called an octave.

They also said that of any given density, there are an infinite number of sub-densities within that density. So, this third density is an octave as it consists of seven sub-densities and within one of those sub-densities is seven more sub-sub-densities, thus an octave within an octave and on it goes down. So, why can it not go up that way? It may be that a grouping of seven octaves is a super-octave, you might say. Who knows if it goes infinity up as it does down in a, as Austin was saying, a fractal sort of pattern.

So anyway, my mind is creaking and groaning with those thoughts.

It makes me consider the word ‘timelessness’ and how maybe Ra used that word in a way that we might not fully grasp. Just the idea of something being timeless and what that means when Ra says that, I think there’s something else in the nature of our own reality that might be able to help us understand this, too. We can think of our own progression as individuals as a spiral upward. Some relate that to what Ra calls the upward spiraling light. You might think of one spin of that spiral as a cycle, perhaps where the light is traveling in the same pattern repeatedly, but it’s also moving upwards. So, it’s never in the same place, but it’s going over the same cycle, which is the same with our own progression.

I think that a lot of people on the spiritual path have found that there’s a cycle to our spiritual progression and the overall template of our journey doesn’t seem to change. It’s what Joseph Campbell called, “the hero’s journey.” In Law of One terminology, he might relate it to the cycles of the archetypes. The archetypes are consistent throughout all of our experiences, yet with each moment of growth we experience, that cycle, which never changes itself, also never seems to be the same. We may see things, the same things, throughout our entire lifetime, but always with new perspectives—so long as our perspectives are growing. The cycle itself is timeless as it never ever changes within our spiritual journey, and yet it still builds upon everything that came before it.

So, I think that that’s another way that can help us grasp the idea of something being timeless within our own reality. There is this consistent thing on our spiritual paths that really doesn’t ever change, but also doesn’t seem to be the same at the same time.

Yeah, I think Jim used the phrase “the eternal now.” I think that’s one of the best pointers to it, which Eckert Tolle spends most of his teaching leading the seeker back to precisely that, the eternal now.

That’s all of my thoughts.

Well, we’ve begun and ended in mystery, so good job, guys.


I hear Pickwick (Jim’s cat) out in the hall.

Okay, our next question comes from Travis via email. He says:

“As you know, our perception drastically alters our potential to be the masters of our own reality or the servant to it. But how does this work with a large group (or whole world) of mind/body/spirit complexes?”

Austin, what say you there?

Well, first of all, I think it’s important to determine what Travis means when he says, “to be masters of our own reality or to be servants to it” and how our perception affects that. I think this is a very common idea in the New Age community and among channeled material that our perceptions create the whole of our reality. I have seen some of these beliefs tend towards the idea that our reality itself is completely malleable and shapeable by our perceptions alone. For example, if we are able somehow to alter our perception enough to perceive an elephant in the corner of the room, then an elephant will be literally in the corner of the room. I think I agree with the sentiment behind the power of our perceptions, but I take a different approach than the literal altering of our reality. So, I won’t make any statements on how exactly our perceptions might alter our reality, but I do think it’s obvious that our perceptions can influence our ability to affect and exist in our reality as we truly desire to, which would be what Ra calls being co-Creators.

For us to grasp this concept and to start to examine our perceptions, we go through this process of clearing distortions to allow us to see things from a common standpoint, which is love, according to Ra. Essentially the goal and the result of the process of growth is to view all things as love, thus acting as agents of love and harmony in our lives as we live it. Thus, becoming, as Travis puts it, masters. That’s the angle that I would see his statement about being masters of our reality from is our ability for us to wield our perceptions, learn from our perceptions, and eventually alter our perceptions in order to see things as love.

How would that work as a group? I’m not sure if I fully understand Travis’ question, but I took an angle and I ran with it. Firstly, I think that a group’s level of awareness or ability to perceive their reality in a positive light would be determined by an average awareness of the individuals within that group. Modern developmental theories view correlations between both personal evolution and collective evolution. There are various stages of evolution that correlate with Ra’s system of energy centers. I’ve always viewed Ra’s system of energy centers as a type of model of developmental psychology, which individuals, as well as societies, go through. It should be noted that each stage of developmental psychology is not necessarily distinct or separate from a previous stage, but it is simply a growth of the previous stage. This is much like how each energy center is honored in Ra’s explanations of energy system. Each stage of evolution continues to have an influence through the later stages.

This is not to say that individuals would then be limited by the collective evolution, but I do think that there’s an obvious influence and dynamic between the individual and society. If a society is, say within green ray, those growing up in that society will have more inspiration and more catalyst available to them that allows them to more quickly approach the level from which that society is working. If the society holds strong ideals and beliefs centering around a particular level, it might be more difficult for individuals to grow past that particular level.

So, while any individual may be a master of their own evolution, I do think there is strong influences from the environment and from social aspects of living within a society that is at a particular stage of growth, which will obviously affect the individual’s own perception. Individuals themselves can directly affect their society and culture by sharing their views and making their marks on those around them, helping that society to progress. I suppose, in fewer words, perhaps the more people within a large group of entities are aware of how their perceptions affect their reality, the more likely it is that the group will approach similar levels. They will view their group catalyst in the light of love rather than other distortions as they grow, and that natural progression will have them sharing the perception of all things being love. But since we’re all essentially on the same path, we clear distortions that stop us from doing things with love. Eventually, a society will be able to master their perceptions and that way of seeing things as love, perhaps in fourth density when we are a social memory complex.

So, that’s what I got from Travis’ question and I hope that that was what he was asking about. Passing it back to you, Jim.

Yeah, it’s kind of hard to know exactly what he meant there. There’s a little bit of doubt. Gary, what did you come up with when you looked at his question? Gary?

I think you’re muted, Gary.

Yeah, sorry. I was replying and didn’t realize I was muted. So, I was saying, likewise there was some confusion on my part regarding the terminology. I don’t have as comprehensive and in depth of a reply as Austin did, but I just kind of took a broad swipe at it. On the question of how in general a collective creates a shared perception or a multiplicity of perceptions within the collective that may or may not be in harmony, I focused on the attention because I think that—from the standpoint of the conscious mind at least—it is the attention that tends to energize, create, and manifest ones reality, both internally and externally. Not to the extent, as Austin was describing, of thinking that there is an elephant in the room and then there is an elephant in the room. It’s not quite that magical or indirect or immediate or so forth. What one places their attention, that tends to become their reality.

I would imagine that with a group the mechanics are more or less the same, but just on a much larger scale. Groups experience the same emotions and perceptions as do an individual, including compassion, anxiety, dread, elation, confusion, clarity, desire to harm, desire to serve, desire to love, desire to compete, desire to cooperate, and so forth. Whereas an individual can be divided, in conflict, and out of harmony within themselves, so can a collective be divided, in conflict, and in disharmony among its constituent members. A collective is probably more prone to be in disharmony as each constituent entity is operating under the Law of Confusion, which is amplified the more that entities are added to the mix.

Indeed, each person added to a collective complicates the dynamics even further, perhaps even exponentially so. I think there is a certain mathematics to it. Ra mentions the mechanism of the calling. They say that the law of squares is what determines whether and how a call is answered. That law involves some formulas or math whereby the energy or power of those making the call is squared, and when that power reaches a point whereby it overcomes the integrated resistance to the call, then the call can be answered. So perhaps there are formulas and numbers, statistics and math that help explain how a collective manifests anything. Whether it be how a mental climate is created, or how a collective affects its planetary sphere, or what values a society focuses on, or what projects a society completes.

Perhaps this is connected to the ideas of critical mass and/or the so-called hundredth monkey effect. I believe that a large group, even up to the point of an entire planet, can ultimately effect the greatest change when harnessing the faculties of will and faith—unifying and concentrating the two. Consider session #3.10 when Don says:

“Then if an individual is totally informed with respect to the Law of One, and lives and is the Law of One, such things as the building of a pyramid by direct mental effort would be commonplace. Is that what I am to understand?”

Ra answers:

“You are incorrect in that there is a distinction between the individual power through the Law of One and the combined, or societal memory complex mind/body/spirit understanding of the Law of One.

In the first case, only the one individual, purified of all flaws, could move a mountain. In the case of mass understanding of unity, each individual may contain an acceptable amount of distortion and yet the mass mind could move mountains.“

Now, Ra is alluding to processes that we would describe as extraordinary. That is, using consciousness alone to create changes in space/time. But there are many other levels of reality creation among a group. Austin did a good job covering that ground in terms of how the individual relates to the group and vice versa, and how the individual can both transcend the group and inform the group in so doing, or the group can uplift or keep down from a chakras perspective, the individual.

But anyway, how about you, Jim?

Well, I have a little different take on it, which might be wrong. I was looking at his question regarding his ability either to become a master of his reality or servant to it, and I kind of got the feeling he would rather be the master of the reality than the servant to it. That’s where I might be going wrong, but if that’s correct, then what I would say to him or to anybody who has that kind of question is that I think the only thing that we could really master is our own journey of growth. I don’t think that we have any real hope—and shouldn’t have any real desire—to master anything beyond our own growth in the spiritual sense, and we don’t really want to be masters of anybody else. Mastering or controlling others is negative polarity.

So, I think that what we’re shooting for here is to be able to master our ability to use catalyst on a daily basis, which is whatever pre-incarnative choices are filtered through our subconscious mind into our conscious mind. We will look at what happens to us during the day through those lenses, and as we see the catalyst developing, we will hopefully attempt to balance that catalyst so that overall we’ll begin to open up each energy center higher and higher until we get to the heart. At that point, we will become able to be harvested because we will be aware of the power and reality of love. The love that we seek at the heart level then is that which we begin to share with others, and at that point, as we have mastered our own beingness and our own ability to move through the evolution of our own mind/body/spirit complex, then we become the servants of all. As it says in the Bible, if you would become the greatest then you must serve all. You must become the least and serve everyone, which is what I think we’re shooting for.

But then he gets on to how does this work with the large group or whole world. Well, I think that if my perception there was correct, we’ll extrapolate it then to the large group. In a large group I think it becomes more difficult because it takes each person in the group working on him or her self in this concentrated fashion in order to make it possible to cooperate with the group. In a sense of what Ra was talking about in Session 65 about the various possibilities, there was a discussion about the Edgar Cacey book about the planet shifting its poles and being able to graduate a harvest and so many disasters because we were not successful for thousands of years in being harmonious together. And Ra said that there is still one possibility, that one chance that in one fine, strong moment of inspiration, your planet could polarize in a positive sense. Ra said, yes, it is ever possible, not probable, but it is ever possible.

I think that groups can do amazing things, but it would require that each entity within the group be of like mind. We basically would have to have a really good start on forming a social memory complex where the entire group would be focused upon seeking in the same direction. We would point the compass in that direction and that would be, you know, very likely be service to others and helping those who do not have the same advantages they did to become aware of the One Creator, to become aware of the power of love, to transform and to become personally transformed and to be able to do it as a group.

So, that was the take on it. Anybody else have any comments on that take or your take or any take? Do we have any takers?

I do think that your answer took a different meaning from his question, but it’s still related. Regarding the idea of being a master or a servant to our own perception, I think we interpreted those things differently in that being a servant is essentially what a positive entity would be striving for in serving others and essentially living their entire life for serving others at some point in time. But what I took from Travis’ meaning, which may or may not be what he intended, would be to be masters of our own reality would be able to consciously choose to be that servant, to be able to master our perceptions in order to then serve. Being a servant of our reality is like being beholden to what I guess would be negative perceptions and held back by our reality because we are perceiving it in a certain way and being unable to serve in the way that we want to. That might not be what he meant, but that’s the angle that I took it from. I think that your answer is still very relevant to his question, as well as both Gary and my answers.

Okay. Gary, how about you, any final questions, answers, or comments?

I love that you took mastery and then connected it to the concept of being a servant and said when you become a master then you become a servant of all. It was well done. And then you said something about the one fine moment of inspiration and Cacey and the probabilities, which there was something in there that I wanted to reply to and connect to the Law of One. Was there something else that you said in there, Jim?

Well, I think I said a lot of things.

Can you just repeat your whole answer?

Dang it. Oh, man. I had something really salient to contribute, but it’s just gone. Then, no, no more from me.

Okay, we’ve pretty much gone past our limit already. Do you want to try the final question since it might be a real short one?

We can if you want to.

Let’s see my reply. My reply is just three Ra quotes.

Mine would probably be a ditto of Gary’s, I’m guessing, so…

Well, mine will be even shorter than that. Okay, the last question is from AmariPaul via Bring4th:

“When you fully observe all of your distortions and balance the chakras and become a crystallized being, do you experience any more distortions or blockages when any catalyst comes through or when you see or acknowledge a distortion?”


So, in a way this kind of connects to the previous one. But the type of state of evolution that AmariPaul is describing, I linked to what Ra calls “the fully activated being.” In #40.4, Ra says:

“However, the fully activated being is rare. Much emphasis is laid upon the harmonies and balances of individuals. It is necessary for graduation across densities for the primary energy centers to be functioning in such a way as to communicate with intelligent infinity and to appreciate and bask in this light in all of its purity.

However, to fully activate each energy center is the mastery of few, for each center has a variable speed of rotation or activity. The important observation to be made, once all necessary centers are activated to the minimal necessary degree, is the harmony and balance between these energy centers.“

In #47.7, Ra described the crystallized entity. Don asked, “What do you mean by that?” And Ra says:

“We have used this particular term because it has a fairly precise meaning in your language. When a crystalline structure is formed of your physical material the elements present in each molecule are bonded in a regularized fashion with the elements in each other molecule. Thus the structure is regular and, when fully and perfectly crystallized, has certain properties. It will not splinter or break; it is very strong without effort; and it is radiant, traducing light into a beautiful refraction giving pleasure of the eye to many.”

I see this needs commentary, but I’ll just read the Ra quotes. In #42.10, Don says:

“How can a person know when he is unswayed by an emotionally charged situation, or if he is repressing the flow of emotions, or if he is in balance and truly unswayed?”

Ra answers:

“We have spoken to this point. Therefore, we shall briefly iterate that to the balanced entity no situation has an emotional charge but is simply a situation like any other in which the entity may or may not observe an opportunity to be of service. The closer an entity comes to this attitude, the closer an entity is to balance.”

I would recommend those three for AmariPaul to consider. Back to you, Jim.

Oh, that was really good. Austin, how about you?

Yeah, basically the exact same thing Gary said. I just have one other quote that was the same as Gary’s basically. Don asked:

“Would a perfectly balanced entity feel an emotional response when being attacked by the other self?”

And Ra said:

“I am Ra. This is correct. The response is love.”

And they said that about any situation where an entity was perfectly balanced. So, I would say to AmariPaul that what you would acknowledge or see in any situation if you’re perfectly crystallized and balanced is a situation of love. That’s it.

Okay, well that’s all I can say, too. Ditto and ditto because we obviously have not experienced this yet. We can just take these few little quotes from Ra and give them as examples of what might be the truth and I think that’s probably it. Since love is the basic creative function and force of the universe, if we see anything other than that, then we are still working with catalyst. Okay, any final comments?

Not from me.

Not from I.

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