Group question: Q’uo, if you could speak today on the topic of the eternal now.

(Jim channeling)

I am Q’uo, and we greet you all in love and in light. We are most pleased and privileged to join your group this evening as you have gathered once again to practice the art of channeling; and my friends, as you know by now, there is indeed an art to this practice, for as you perfect your ability to tune yourself in harmony with the vibrations of love, light and unity, you begin to see more of the Infinite Creator expressing itself within you and from you in order that you might be able to be of service to the One Creator as an instrument that shares the very fabric of the Creator with those about you.

As always, we will ask that simple favor once again this evening, that you take the words that we give you, and the concepts we share with you, and use them as you will, agents of free will as you are, and leave behind any that do not have that ring of truth for you at this time. For each of us moves in our own rhythms and patterns in the dance of our being, and at one time or another we shall make all the moves, all the steps, all the harmonies, of the great dance of creation.

If you investigate, in depth, each of these qualities that you call time, you will notice that at some point the concept of time can no longer fulfill its obligation to describe the purest nature of the reality which you perceive on a daily basis, for time must eventually fall away, for it is a finite concept attempting to measure that which is infinite and eternal. Time has its purpose, to focus you most one-pointedly within your third-density illusion so that you notice those choices that you have made before the incarnation and see them as clearly as possible as you go about your daily round of activities, and imbue those activities with the qualities you wish to learn. This may be done in time within your illusion.

At this time, shall we say, we transfer this contact to the one known as Gary. We are those of Q’uo.

(Gary channeling)

We are those known to you as the principle of Q’uo, and we continue to speak on the topic of the eternal now through this instrument. It is a topic rich for exploration because it may be oriented toward from infinite starting points in your illusion, for there is no where that eternity is not; whether you may be positioned further in time or at the beginning of time, whether you seem to have an abundance of time or no time to spare, for the deepest part of yourself resides always in a present which simultaneously transcends time and meets the seeker wherever its mind may seem to be constrained by the illusion of time. Merely tasting this experience of eternity has the potential to transform that which it touches within the structure of the illusory self. It may be considered likened unto the salvation—what those on your planet call enlightenment, for the experience and the living within the illusory constructs of space and time are harsh, or rather can be harsh to those within those constraints.

In such a system as the third-density illusion which you experience you and entities suffer. There are attachments—things which are desired, things which are avoided. There are expectations which go unmet; there are goals set. There are many ways to lose or experience loss, to know the experience of limitation, to watch the timebound mind struggle against the strait-jacket of an unrelenting and merciless march of time, particularly in a society which has not generally reconciled with the process of death, the cycles of reincarnation, the place that aging and dying has in an evolutionary experience, so that time may seem to bring a loss to the self as time takes away friends and loved ones [and] seems to reduce the self’s physical powers, perhaps even mental powers. Time may perhaps limit the self from choices that are desired or doing everything which one wants to do.

As we were saying, the experience of the third-density entity in time and its counterpart, space, is one of suffering for an entity which completely identifies with that structure, moving through its days without conscious contact with its deeper self which abides in eternity. This is why we say that even the slightest touch of eternity can create a pinhole through which the seeker caught within your illusion may glimpse, for lack of a better term, freedom. This taste may then help awaken the will and original desire inherent and built into the self so that the self embarks upon a quest through time to seek the timeless—for consciously or not, the self ultimately knows that its true home, its true identity, is one and the same with the, shall we say, timeless realm, the eternal now. From the standpoint of the eternal now, it is increasingly possible to witness the kaleidoscope of forms rising and falling, birthing and dying, on the stages of space and time with equanimity, love, light, and without the debilitating suffering that those seemingly caught within time experience.

This instrument asks that we release this contact, and now transfer it to the one known as Austin. We thank this instrument and this circle.

(Austin channeling)

I am Q’uo, and am with this instrument. Much of the illusion in which you find yourself presently is steeped in a specific distortion and conceptualization of that which we call time. Indeed, time as a distortion carries a heavy burden in allowing for the Creator to experience itself. Without the distortion and division and compartmentalization of time, much of what allows for entities to have experience would not be possible. In seeking to grasp and experience the eternal now, as you have called it, we encourage the seeker to, in meditation, attempt to unravel those distortions of the concept of time and how they may relate to the method, shall we say, of yielding experience for the mind/body/spirit complex. And in doing so, we encourage the release of such strictures as the division of time and space, the perception of time as being an environment in which all things exist, for what you have abstracted as time is, indeed, quite innate and close to each individual entity and each iota of the creation.

You do not exist in time—time is as much of an element of your existence as the material which composes your body complexes, as the thoughts which arise in your mind complexes, yet by conceptualizing time to be a linear flow in which you exist allows for your journey to unfold in a way that appears unpredictable and novel. This is, indeed, what the Creator seeks as it desires to know itself.

Your scientists and philosophers have troubled over the existence of time and the flow of time. Recent developments and so-called theories propose similar conclusions as we are implying, as we speak to you through this instrument. You, as a peoples, are learning through the method of scientific analysis that time is indeed innate to space, that perhaps the passage of time is, indeed, illusory. These so-called scientific breakthroughs are made possible only through concurrent spiritual development of your culture, and we suggest that for balanced progress to unfold for both the scientist and the seeker, that these paths merge so that a truly deeper understanding of your place and our place within the universe may unfold. For, indeed, my friends, the understanding of the eternal now is an understanding that we, the social memory complexes that compose the principle known to you as Q’uo, have yet to fully grasp.

This makes the topic of time and eternity both a tantalizing and difficult topic to speak upon in this way, but we are joyed to do so, for in your own explorations of these lofty spiritual topics, we, ourselves, gain deeper understanding. We glimpse new varieties of the Creator in an attempt to understand Itself, and such attempts to us radiate of the most beautiful and vibrant love and light. We understand potential frustration in the attempt to grasp the type of idea which we speak about with you now, but we encourage the seeker attempting to rest within the eternal now to, when appropriate, release all word, form, and conceptualization, leave the ideas that we share with you upon the table as you open yourself fully and with desire to the One Infinite Creator, for “the eternal now” is simply another way of stating those words of “One Infinite Creator.”

At this time, we release this instrument and transfer the contact back to the one known as Gary. We are Q’uo.

(Gary channeling)

We are those known to you as Q’uo, and we speak again through this instrument with gratitude for this circle of seeking. We would offer some more commentary upon the topic of the eternal now, with reminder that any concept articulated or otherwise is just that. Infinite are the concepts that arise out of the now and which dissolve once their lifespan is complete, dissolve as all things will when, so to speak, and as they return into the now.

Even these words of return and lifespan imply movement through space and time, which are dances that even we, or the instrument, struggle when attempting to navigate the paradox of describing what is and what is not. Your vocabulary gives us the term “illusion,” which has limited utility, and it helps create distinction between eternity/infinity and finity/manyness, but it becomes difficult even then to say that finity is not real, or space and time are not real. But we can assure you that they are constructs that are limited, and eternity has no limitation.

Each limitation that you will face, or experience, or conceive, or imagine disappears like smoke dissipating in the light of eternity. This instrument asks that we make good use of time and begin moving toward the exit of our time with this instrument, and we would make two final notes, which include the Confederation’s favorite admonition to meditate, for the taste and eventual experience of eternity will not precisely be found within the machinations of your mind complex, or even the emotions—though both may beautify and point the way when disciplined and known—but rather it is only through stillness and silence that the self may be with eternity. And before transferring this contact, we express eagerness to work with the one known as Trisha again, when some healing has been undergone. We are those known to you as Q’uo, and we now transfer this contact to the one known as Austin.

(Austin channeling)

We are Q’uo and we are with this instrument. At this time, we ask if there are any questions which we may speak to through this instrument.

Q’uo, what is the relationship between the instrument’s own knowledge base, and the content that is channeled through the conscious instrument?

I am Q’uo and am aware of the query, my brother. You may see the difficulty that this question proposes with its own internal logic, for naturally, this instrument has its own ideas about the answer to this question, but we encourage it to release hesitation, and trust in the process.

As we have stated before, the process of channeling is much like that of a dance, of a cooperation. It is, indeed, an intimate relationship between the instrument and the source of that which is being channeled. Each relationship between the instrument and the source is unique. Each instrument opens itself to our contact in its own peculiar way, making its own capacities and its own knowledge and its own distortions available in different ways. In general, we may describe the process of connecting to an instrument as finding those areas within the instrument’s mind and energy field in which it is most open, or most able to receive contact, and allow for the flow of information, or light, to then be translated into the words which the instrument speaks. So, you may see that the answer to this question is, indeed, unique to each instrument as we may utilize each instrument’s capacities according to the capacity of that instrument.

To speak in a clearer sense, much of the relationship between us and the instrument is formed by the instrument, and as each instrument learns to release its own concept of how the channeling process works, the more open they become to being able to receive our thoughts in a more undistorted or clearer fashion, may we say.

Does this speak to the heart of your question, my brother?

It does make headway, Q’uo. Let me contemplate for just a second, please.

Are you suggesting that the more open the instrument is to the source, the more then you can transmit information which is unknown to the conscious mind of the instrument?

We are Q’uo and we are aware of the query, my brother. Indeed, that inference may be made, and in general and simple terms, is correct, though we take this opportunity to elaborate, and suggest that though an instrument freer from personal distortion regarding the process of channeling may be able to receive what could be called “new” information, the utility of distortions towards the channeling process varies. Some distortions are more useful in transmitting our thoughts, and though it may inhibit somewhat the field of exploration which may be made, it may yet broaden the field of understanding which may be had by the information which is transmitted for those who hear or read the words which we speak.

Is there a further query, my brother?

Yeah, to be clear, I don’t mean to imply that “new” information is of necessarily greater value than that which is known, the eternal truths are the same in any age, yet the unknown draws us onward, and understanding the process by which unknown information can come through an instrument is of value.

I’m wondering if you can speak to the instruments who first received you in our own particular storyline, those that we call the Detroit Group, and then the early generation of L/L Research channels. They had no conscious knowledge of you yet, began transmitting concepts of densities and harvest, and your names, and you began laying the groundwork of your cosmology with no previous base established. Was there something unique to those situations that allowed those instruments to transmit such new and radical information?

I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my brother. As you continue to explore this topic, we may openly state that we are careful in responding through this instrument as such information as you are seeking may be seen to guide in an inappropriate sense, in our eyes, and so we apologize for seeming to speak around the topic, if you will.

To speak directly to your query: indeed, there was much unique about the inception of the ongoing contact with the Confederation finding its origins in what you call “The Detroit Group,” and the earliest iterations of your own channeling circles.

The environment, both in a personal and societal sense, of that time/space was incredibly unique to that which you currently experience. And we suggest that while such information that was channeled through those instruments was not done so in a vacuum of spiritual information, it was of quite a new and novel variety. The instruments of that time, thanks to the novel nature of the experience of channeling and learning this information—those instruments’ imaginations were, shall we say, much less constrained by what may be received and, the potentials of their own situations.

As the so-called experiment in channeling continued through your group, ideas, and methods, and concepts began to crystalize and form certain patterns of thought that have defined a culture. The nature of this is two-sided—on one side, there is a great benefit to having the guidance that such a culture provides. And indeed, a culture which has persisted in your channeling circles has provided, to our great joy, a level of protection and integrity with which we continue our contact with you.

The other side of having such an established culture and established ideas, which include such information as the earlier instruments received, is that the dedication that this group has to those ideas and that culture constrains somewhat the imagination which the earlier circles were able to utilize in order to receive such new and novel information.

We do not mean to suggest that this constraint is, in its effect, complete or full, but [it] does present somewhat of a hurdle or difficulty in breaching the unknown.

Is there a further query, my brother?

Are you able to provide any information regarding how an instrument may unburden its imagination of previous knowledge and be more open to transmitting, rather be more open to receiving and then transmitting, information which is novel?

I am Q’uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This query speaks to somewhat advanced spiritual techniques, as it involves the utilization of what has been called by us and your group magic, or the ability to make changes in one’s own unconscious and consciousness at will. As we know that you are well aware, the path of the adept who may utilize magic to its highest extent is one of dedication and purification. The exploration of such topics as has been provided by us over the years—such as the archetypical mind, or healing, or balancing—are of utmost importance in this path, and we may only go so far as to suggest a dedicated practice and study of such topics in order to discover the ability to release one’s mind of such distortions at will.

Is there a further query, my brother?

No, that was super informative. Thank you, Q’uo, I will discontinue my questioning for this evening.

I am Q’uo and we thank you, my brother. Is there a final query at this time?


I am Q’uo and we sense that this circle of seeking is nearing its completion for this evening. To offer some final closing words, we leave this instrument and transfer the contact to the one known as Jim. We are Q’uo.

(Jim channeling)

I am Q’uo and am again with this instrument. We look back over our evening with you with joy and satisfaction, realizing that each has, once again, made a significant step forward in the practice of receiving and transmitting our thoughts. It is a significant event for us to be able to generate the quality of information through the instruments present and have been to provide this evening. Partially, it is due to the quality of the questioning, of course, the sincerity of the students here gathered, but mostly it is the extreme desire of each instrument to improve in the ability to serve as an instrument, for this is a great challenge for any person or seeker to give over the use of the mind and the mouth—the body, as it were—in order to become utilized as a beacon of hope, of sincere desire to serve others. And this generation of the inner dedication to purification is most inspiring to us, for as you, we have in our own beings a constant reevaluation and rededication to seeking and serving the one who is in all.

This is a process which you will find propels you further and further along the path of seeking that you have long been upon, not only within this illusion, but others as well, as you have surmised. So, we look upon each of you as a portion of our brothers and sisters of sorrow, who have moved in service to this lovely little planetary sphere in order to help its population make the graduation into the fourth density of love and understanding. Know ye then that you have done well. We encourage you to continue this journey with every fiber of your being, for what else is there to do, my friends, that is of value.

At this time, we shall take our leave of this group. We leave each of you in the love and light in which we found you, for there is nowhere else to be. We are known to you as those of Q’uo. Adonai vasu borragus.